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CM Now we have one of the most amazing ones I think, one of the most extraordinary fashion pictures ever taken in my opinion, Erin with a long nose. Tell us.
JG Well challenging people's views of beauty really, why not? Originally, it was from the nightmare sequence of the Freud collection (Sado-Maso Autumn-Winter 2000), it was you know every kid's nightmare that their dolls come to life, it was like a Marie Antoinette doll you know with the powdery wig and everything, and suddenly she would come to life, some kind of like I'd imagine an Edwardian nurse really.
CM And there's the lovely big key as well there, you know when she's wound up, but she's an evil doll.
JG Yeah, I think she is definitely, definitely, and then she got this lovely kind of balletic wrap, and her eyes are pulled back in a very kind of like pre-stage make up if you like, and she's not being very ladylike is she?
CM No, not a bit ladylike.
JG There was a great sequence to these pictures, because he captured the whole destruction of the piano as it went on.
CM It finally was nothing.
JG Oh yeah, it was completely destroyed, but I just love the passion, I love the Gaffa tape, the pink tape holding that plastic down, and the shape she was making. She's wearing them over, I mean, you can see she's barefoot with almost like potter's clay on her feet, and just these like wide pin-striped pants. There's such a good energy in that picture, it's so cool.
CM Enormous energy, it's one of the most amazing modern pictures, an extraordinary picture. That must have taken a long time.
JG Well yeah, because if you look closely, you have to see the real pieces, but there (were) pictures. Oh we need a lupe really, but there was like, it was very humorous, it looked completely the period and the colours and the embroidery, but on closer inspection, see all these little sheep with their neck cut and there was blood running down, and she was powdering her cheeks and nose before the guillotine came down and she was eating like cakes in another part, all these...
CM Unaware.
JG It was completely mad, little scenes going on but very beautifully done. This very kind of illustrative line that was used and then it was a really sweet dress, a very sweet dress.
CM It's lovely.
JG And there you can see all the inner structure.
CM Yes, absolutely. What I like is this has an undressed feeling...
JG And the electrical wire and the plastic, the behind the scenes, beautiful isn't it?
CM It is, it's marvelous. That could be almost Versailles, those things coming down.
JG That's just beautiful, beautiful on the picture.
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