I am also interested to hear from Showstudio on this matter.
xxx
Your previous downloadable clothing projects have been very interesting and high profile, as have your more general S/S projects.
They have dealt with various indepth aspects of creativity and the industry workings of creating style.
This recent project seems to be more grass roots and relies heavily on the social scene surrounding a designers workings.
While obviously input from your contempories is beneficial, there seems to be a certain amount of glamourisation involved here that does not tell us anything more than we could have gleamed from our own daily lives.
Or perhaps from observing those of other poeples.
The Showstudio platform is one that is world wide and is highly respected and I am genuinely interested to hear what the people behind the idea felt that this project was attempting.
I am not chastising, and would like to alleviate from the quagmire of vicous commentary on this forum for just a brief period to obtain some understanding.
Kind regards
Started by William Oliver, 16:03 Wed 21 Jun 2006 | Profile +++++ | 122 posts
I am also interested to hear from Showstudio on this matter.
xxx
The project relies heavily on one, rather small, scene in London, with one big (inflatable) matriarch: Pugh. It's the only "scene" most London fashion editors, press & aficionados seem to express any interest in at the moment - I just don't get why this collective credits the amount of attention it has received?
The "vicious" (although I could hardly call it that) commentaries are the result of many forum members' frustration with the current monopoly on all things Pugh, !wowwow!, Bowery...blah! This project seems to take the metaphorical biscuit, in that it focuses too little on the work & more on the lifestyle surrounding Pugh. That's not to say I don't comprehend that a designer's day-to-day actions influence his work; it's more that I've seen all these same so-called soi-disants in i.D., Dazed et al over the past 9 months, and it now seems Showstudio is buying into it all (in a big way.)
It's getting tragically dull (& shallow.)
From Not fun for everyone, 01:24 Thu 22 Jun 2006 | Profile +++++ | 172 posts
Oh, and I have never seen such rehearsed poses in my life. "Look at me, I'm crazy & cool."
From Not fun for everyone, 01:34 Thu 22 Jun 2006 | Profile +++++ | 172 posts
Sometimes I go through the blog and then have thoughts which I want to write about on here. I'm glad a few people already have regarding this subject.
I'm interested to know what responses this gets, and agree whole heartedly with all three of you guys. London has become like that, I don't undertsand why the 'party scene' has become the only piece of press London seems to get on the fashion circuit and it's incredibly frustrating and hilarious (not in a good sense).
Incidentally, Gareth Pugh was the designer on the reality TV monstrosity 'Fashion House'? The show where "...6 young designers from all over the world compete for a gold shirt, judged by that frizz haired floater from St. Martins who's sometimes on awful t.v shows..." - how come that doesn't get mentioned? Isn't that a bit like Jade from big brother Art Directing Dior Campaigns?
From Ben Morris, 07:22 Thu 22 Jun 2006 | Profile +++++ | 442 posts
Also I didn't get the 'sound of clothes' project. I found that the blog; 'for the first time hear the incredible close up sound of leather..' made me very confused. I can "hear" leather when I put on a coat, or does Alexander Mcqueen leather sound different to other leather? Do Chloe sequins 'ching' more than Balenciaga ones?
Is anybody still there?
From Ben Morris, 07:28 Thu 22 Jun 2006 | Profile +++++ | 442 posts
As Russel Crowe once said on South Park:
"Dont f**k with my art!"
I thought that Showstudio was about groundbreaking fashion and new work, not get subsumed by the "Reality TV World" craze that is so prevalent in other forms of media. I think the london fashion partry scene stuff is laughable at best as ben noted.
This is an internet site and a global audience can we not open the projects to a more global nature, things like video clips of the vogueing in NY were good but really were little more than sketches of what was happening, there was a good message somewhere in there but it was hard not to compare it to videos of people dancing on youtube with no artistic pretentions around it. Where was the narrative or commentary that I felt this piece needed? Thats not to say the work has no merit, just sometimes its hard to see the full validity of the work.
Now this is my personal opinion on certain projects, other pieces like the moving fashion were excellent. To me, the internet and sites like this are about interaction and creativity. If I want to read about hoxton parties and media luvvies there are plenty of blogs and the eponymous myspace to look at.
But everyone has an opinion in fashion (some bigger than others) and I think that showstudios projects will always get polarised opinions for certain projects and thats what good about the site, it encourage dialogue. But please dont let it become another myspace.
From Maikeru, 09:42 Thu 22 Jun 2006 | Profile +++++ | 159 posts
It's funny to sit here and read the outraged comments concerning one particular scene coming in on this thread and the Supersuper thread(which I notice has more entries than any other thread).It reminds me so much in tone of the letters of protest that streamed into the N.M.E.and other music papers when Punk first started in the UK way back in the 1970s'.
Oh do fuck off, I hate these constant allusions to other cultural movements such as punk. Not that I think punk deserves being aggrandized (with the exception of a few key figures within that "scene"), punk has become a perennially co-opted marketing strategy. But the current club thing in London is so far removed from the embryonic aspirations of punk, that to compare it to !wowwow!ists belittles even punk's narrow epistemology.
From Not fun for everyone, 11:13 Thu 22 Jun 2006 | Profile +++++ | 172 posts
La, Im sorry but your comment is infuriating. First off, i hoped that we would hear from the creators of the project.
But as for, "this reminds me of the letters the NME recieved in regards to punk" please just don't. First of all, wowow is not the new punk and unintelligent comments like that will simply pump up the ego's of the scenesters and simply create more hype around something i have yet to see any real originality coming from.
On top of that, I am 23 years old, I am the same age as lots of the people involved in the current London scene and I am disillusioned, i am not a bitter 35 yr old, i am someone with plenty of idea's, creativity and a group socio-political ideals. And i still do not want to be sold an ellaboration of the electro scene from 2001 or a pair of shiny neon trousers.
On the other side Horace does make some very nice hoodies.
From William Oliver, 11:13 Thu 22 Jun 2006 | Profile +++++ | 122 posts