Hi Pony, didn't mean to be obscure, sorry. What I was trying to say is something like... I may be old-school, and I don't care if I am, but I find Richardson's work easy to read compared to Teller's, it's true. That doesn't mean I find Richardson's aesthetic easy - it's just EASIER. By "relative" I meant, comparative, by comparison. Also by comparison, but in reverse, I find Teller's content - the subjects of his pictures say - much easier on the eye than Richarson's images. Perhaps the comparason is not a good one, for anybody but me. But that's what I'm seeing right now.

I really hope that's helpful, because I'm not sure I can explain any better!

Thanks for the precision about lol - I like!

And now, hello Hugo! I hope martinb tunes in today - he's the person to have introduced your name here because he admires your work. I don't believe his intention was to compare you to Juergen Teller though - it was in response to me mentioning Kate Garner. So the comparison was with her rather than Teller, even if it took place here in a discussion about Teller's work.

I'm intrigued - why would you be honoured to be mentioned along side Teller? The style and quality of what you both do is so different that, if you're both good in your own ways, how to compare?

P.S. Don't worry about spelling - mine is crap, just like everybody else's, you get used to it.

And now that I really think of it, your 'Wabi-sabi' work reminds me of Marie-Jo LaFontaine

I am not aware of Marie-Jo Fontaine. I am curious. Is she interested in the beauty of imperfection?
As for Teller, I am honoured, because I believe he really was an innovator and helped to capture a time now gone. It is somewhat nostalgic at present. Sad for Marc Jacobs. I agree about Terry. I find his images to be of a time reminscent of Fellini's Satyricon.
It is intriguing that in a time in America where the atmoshere is phenomenaly conservative, we have such grotesque imagery in fashion.
It is as though the aspirational consumer is so tied up in a sexual knot that it needs such imagery to move to.
When one looks at the fashion imagery of far more liberal sexual times such as the sixties and seventies, I find visuals to be way more elegant.
Are you guys photographers?

I just looked at Marie-Jo LaFontaine's work. Fascinating. Thank you. I just learned something new.

I don't know what Marie-Jo LaFontaine's aims were/are, but the way I interpret her work, what I find extraordinary about it is the way her large portraits are so much more about the amazing similarities between disparate people, than a comparison of their differences. Genders and races blend totally somehow, magically.

Teller isn't dead! Is he? Just has some catching up to do -it's a harsh world for those that live in it?

Just joking, badly...

It's interesting, what you say about the grotestque in America. From the outside it seem to have become almost traditional, thanks to puritanism.

What kind of elegance are you talking about?

Elegance. That's not word that I've seen much here, and it's - almost - thrown me. "...such as the sixties and seventies" - dangerous ground! Maybe I'm not the only person to be waitng for fashion photography to run it's course, to stop being such a whiney teenager and start being more openly eclectic. To perhaps begin doubling back on itself the way fashion has, and even triple back etc, for quite some time now. What are we waiting for?