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Vivienne Westwood at the de Young

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Galileo's Universe
Galileo's Universe
Greenland
In reply to st. valentine:

....you are entitled to your taste of course....but it is never the best..'pair of glasses' to wear when making opinions....about the quality of someone's work with universal value...sometimes it is better and more clever to do some research before voicing a particular strong opinion about the ...why ....and when ?......in the case of Vivienne Westwood it would be absolutely wrong to judge her work by simply looking at one or several pieces of her vintage work in a museum....and as for her recognition.....that is quite debatable......when compared to other...' top fashion stylists' who have had everything put on a silver plate ...right from the beginning......for whatever reason !!

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From Galileo's Universe, 07:46 Sun 03 Jun 2007 | Profile +++++ | 1149 posts



Galileo's Universe
Galileo's Universe
Greenland
In reply to st. valentine:

. PS...on the note of ... 'I will never cease to be amazed by your penchant for misty-eyed generalities & blandness punctuated with '...'..... Perhaps it is to do with the fact that ones opinion is just one of the thousands and I have learned that one truth is not the perfect and only one...the truth is always somewhere in between in the 'mist' ........and that to have knowledge is power...to have opinions is simply the result !...and you never ever cease to amaze me with your doses of 'humour'.... :):):):

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From Galileo's Universe, 08:03 Sun 03 Jun 2007 | Profile +++++ | 1149 posts



KaWai
KaWai
United States
In reply to Galileo's Universe:

I love a verbal boxing match. But honestly, punk is not my taste, but Vivienne Westwood is an establishment in herself. She didn't have any particular pieces I find that become classics like the Chanel jacket, or the Dior dress, or the Balanciago jacket, or YSL safari jacket, but she changed the way women feel about how a woman should dress, definitely. She has made some women feel ok to dress a bit outside of what's been considered acceptable. Vivienne Westwood's fashion are hard to interpret in the mass market, whearas it's easy to copy Chanel jacket, that could be a reason why V.W never really became mainstream.

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From KaWai, 05:50 Mon 04 Jun 2007 | Profile +++++ | 908 posts



Galileo's Universe
Galileo's Universe
Greenland
In reply to KaWai:

...great to read you understand how it works in her case !... but she also influenced designers after her who translated and interpreted her ideas differently and made it their own.......it is always difficult to compare her in a literal way to other designers of influence indeed...and there lies part of her strength.....in my very humble opinion.....

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From Galileo's Universe, 08:37 Mon 04 Jun 2007 | Profile +++++ | 1149 posts



KaWai
KaWai
United States

If I describe VW as changed the way women feel about how they could dress, VW is as revolutionary as Coco Chanel was as Coco also changed the way women felt how they could dress.

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From KaWai, 05:55 Mon 04 Jun 2007 | Profile +++++ | 908 posts



Galileo's Universe
Galileo's Universe
Greenland

......and not to forget that everything should be seeing in the right context to the time it happened and the social issues of the time....to claim that something made in the 60's , 70's... etc looks now passe or old fashioned and not revolutionary today !....wow !!... that really reduces the ideas and ideals attached to it...to something really shallow, pointless and it would then be rather 'silly' to show it in a museum !...
In a way short sighted and very pretentious...to say the least !

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From Galileo's Universe, 08:58 Mon 04 Jun 2007 | Profile +++++ | 1149 posts



st. valentine
st. valentine
United States

Saying something looks passé doesn't deny that it could have been revolutionary in the past. Maybe you misunderstand the idea of linear time. Or maybe you're stuck in the past and incapable of understanding change. I have to say, it's a pretty major intellectual failing. Anyway, I'll let you worship Westwood- I'll be reading Foucault.

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From st. valentine, 04:06 Fri 08 Jun 2007 | Profile +++++ | 173 posts



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