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Karl Fuler
Karl Fuler
United Kingdom
In reply to Galileo's Universe:

but no one is in charge of the system. Designers, stylists and business (?) only interpret the fashions of the day - those that do it well are successful.
If we want to change the situation we only have to look to ourselves.

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Galileo's Universe
Galileo's Universe
Greenland
In reply to Karl Fuler:

' no one' .... does have a face definitely ........ if ' no one ' wasn't in charge then I like to believe that it would be easy to turn the whole fashion system around for the benefit of all !... perhaps after all we should make a distinction and do excuse me because I am not an expert or a 'scientist ' in what I'm about to say ... and yet I would like to make a point or better say ... express my opinion on this matter.....

The " NO ONE ' in charge of the system I would say are :

- the ones in charge of making sure the' system' works to generate more than plenty of revenues for them personally ... read < investors > ... with the power to move capital in the right direction

- the ones working for and with the 'system' ......... 'the magicians' providing what people want , would want or should want ...... read < stylists... designers ....trend forecasters >

-the ones promoting and working for the 'system '.... making sure that we know what 'we want' and that is fun to have, to own ..etc ... etc .... read......< fashion magazines and the media in general >

So as you can see it isn't an easy task ......... but we the public, if we want, can certainly help to change the system by ventilating our concerns, and stick to our guns and make THEM ALL think harder ... after all ... the relevance of fashion is of such magnitude and it MUST play a its role according to the new hard realities... and take its responsibility in the right direction ... I believe that anyway :):)

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Galileo's Universe
Galileo's Universe
Greenland

You took the words out of my mouth so I rephrase it... indeed ... the image tells it all ! the message is the suffering that goes on behind both industries, and what can be more political than that ? ....

I would call the picture ' Seeing Beyond the Golden Mirror ' !

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Galileo's Universe
Galileo's Universe
Greenland

PS.... Isn't that wonderful and absolutely positive how much this film has managed to set the minds in motion to discern on the subject in question ...... that counts for a lot more :):)

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Very Good! Not great but good. Now if you could make Oprah Winfrey's diamonds bleed, that would be something!

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Galileo's Universe
Galileo's Universe
Greenland
In reply to Brad Gough:

That is indeed a great and highly imaginative idea !!!!... indeed " politics should start closer to 'home ' "......

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Galileo's Universe
Galileo's Universe
Greenland

.... and I forgot to add ... that would indeed unmask our hypocrisy about preaching .... but not practising what we preach... and I'm just I wondering how many people are against cars polluting the air and yet they themselves own cars !!!!!... the same go for fashion , because after all we all have to purchase fashion , whether we like it / agree or not! .... so in the end it is a matter of finding a middle way , the right way because it is never BLACK or WHITE .... that would be more realistic ...regardless of how 'deep and highly intellectual' we may get about the subject ...: the key word.... solutions... solutions!

And by the way join the bikers club ... and use the public transport as much as possible .... there !!! that is a more positive contribution to alleviate the great ills we cause to our planet out of sheer laziness and/of vanity .... and consume less CHEAP throw-away-fashion ..... it might not be a a ' clever ' and a ' highly ' sophisticated ' solution to cure the ills but it will certainly go a long way to alleviate the pains.....

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In reply to Galileo's Universe:

I find it hard to understand why someone should shoot a fashionable type film that is critical of fashion, it all smacks of hypocrisy. Anything to do with fashion tends to pander to the base values of mankind, so why all the high minded discourse and rands about global warming and the damage that fashion does....

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Galileo's Universe
Galileo's Universe
Greenland
In reply to marko:

This is a great statement as far as I'm concerned , that may help you to understand more on the subject ....

Fashion's ecopolitical dilemma by Roger Tredre

Quote :'...... Fashion is good at that kind of thing - a playful and transient reflection of contemporary concerns. But the time for playing is well past now. Fashion in the 21st century has to grow up.'

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Galileo's Universe
Galileo's Universe
Greenland

Why do we eat or consume AT ALL !! in the first place .... Why do we criticise America about its war policies in order to secure the oil when WE ALL perfectly ...( and I mean all of us here in this forum included ) KNOW very well that were not to be oil then we can say GOOD BYE to our modern spoiled way of living as we know it... comfortable, with central heating, transport, factories in order to be able to function and be mobile in society, to go on holidays by plane to DREAM LIKE resorts and be able to transfer us to work everyday in order to earn a SALARY and be able to pay for our luxuries as we know them ? ....

Why doe we care about poverty in third world countries , when we also know very well that there is a lot o poverty closer to home ?

Why do we care about women's rights at all and preach to the rest of the world about them when we as matter of fact know that 1000 of women are abused and denied of their rights, forced into prostitution and treated like slaves a lot closer to home ... but because of being ' politically correct' we just turn a blind eye or don't care at al because it doesn't affect one of our own ....?

Why do we watch TV when we know there is a lot mental pollution being produced ? .... and why would or should we eat animals if we were to go hungry in case there is no other food supply ? ...... and the list can go ....... and on....and yes indeed why anyone should produced or make anything or care at all at all when we know that the best solution is to never exist in the first place ? ...

Could you tell me or care to elaborate on WHY ? .... and do you have the perfect, flawless, uncompromising " SOLUTION" or lets say ANSWER to all those whys ?

I'm curious with trepidation to know about your philosophical, well analysed, very to the point, utterly perfect and flawless answer(s) that fits indeed in your question of the WHY (S) ?

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