In reply to Karl Fuler:

sorry Karl ,I can't understand what your last post means.

In reply to harley:

Fashion isn't about saying things worthwhile - only if that happens to be fashionable, but then would that take away the value of the statement? - For example, to be a Punk in the late 1970s you would have had to have been anti the royal family. So, to be fashionable you would have had to have anti royal views - in which case i believe it would seriously errode the apparent authenticity of those political opinions.

Fashion is a system that only serves itself and to go against this would not, therefore, be fashion. - For example: If a Punk in the late 1970s voiced strong feelings about environmental isssues, however worthy the views, would have been considered very unfashionable/unPunk

In reply to Karl Fuler:

i know, i know...it just burns me up

In reply to Karl Fuler:

...... your statement aside ...'He says he thinks that fashion is intrinsically political '... but why would his words, necessarily, be qualified as to be ... ' empty' ? ... could you elaborate more specifically on that ? ....

In reply to harley:

Oh Harley, you're so fuckin' pure! Evil old me thinks it all looks too FAAAAHHBULOUSSS for words. Bring on those rocks is what I say!

Do you not see how there is an inherent contradiction in what you have just said?

First you're saying that something 'truly political' doesn't need to have a clear message and then you're scolding me for not 'getting it' as if there was a clear message in the first place. What's that about?! And why am I unimaginative for enjoying its terribleness and saying that it made me laugh? I liked the film, just because I'm not po-facedly going on about how deep and 'visceral' the sight of blood is (how obvious!) doesn't mean I can't have my own way of enjoying it.

And yes the diamond trade is sick but I appreciate that when I watch a documentary and learn facts about it, not by watching a model looking great while blood spills down her tits - that's the kind of decadent nonsense that everybody secretly loves. It's fashion darling, NOT POLITICS. My only real aesthetic criticism of this film has to be the eye makeup - too much and too dark for her deep set eyes.

Have a look at this - visually it uses some of the same tricks but the treatment is very different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji1TTuafhII

In reply to bamia:

Bamia, what do you believe fashion REALLY is and why do you enjoy it?

In reply to Karl Fuler:

Karl I appreciate your thinking ... but do you really think that by totally eradicating fashion we humans would be better off and from that moment onwards we Homo sapiens will be for ever happy and living in paradise ? .... or aren't you just showing great inner anger because of your total disappointment with 'fashion' or the fashion system as it is today ?..... Surely you can cure certain illness but you cannot totally eradicated them from the face of the earth, that is the nearest we will ever get to the truth .... and then, just out of curiosity, because I admire your passion.... how would you propose to cure the ills of fashion if you were in charge and be able to in order to create a less vile, uncaring and environmentally devasting system? ... and I mean something constructive :):)

In reply to Galileo's Universe:

I’m not angry but really quite optimistic as I see fashion as part of primitive behavioural system, which can be overrided by our understanding of this system, just as civilisation has helped us to override other behavioural instincts for the benefit of humankind. And yes, I am very passionate about this.

In reply to Karl Fuler:

Yes that is the key word in my opinion in this project ...... ' understanding of this system ' and be totally realistic in the positive sense.... the true fact is that we will never get rid of ' fashion ' but we can absolutely and certainly use it in a very positive way if only we ourselves chose to .... that's of course is if we can get rid of the very negative ' stigma ' brought about by the greed of those in charge of the system today and the shameless manipulations used by praying on people's insecurities ... read ........ shareholders :):)