How very intersting Shaw, I am very sorry for getting, over emotional with my views, and do not aim to be a martyr for issues in general, but when I have seen people being miss treated, by a very corrupt system then I feel that I should be out spoken about it.
I do not know what is going on in France and it saddens me to know what is going on over there.(I would have liked to live there)
Maby I am getting to bogged down with issues, but we are being confronted daily with these very issues, as said before which affect our lives and our freedom of expression.Time will tell
I will leave it there .

Detlev made some possibly useful points there but calling somebody an idiot for speaking about what they believe in (however badly they say it or however inappropriately the situation in which they have said it is) is ridiculously childish and just plain cruel considering the person that called Sebastion a 'goon' obviously considers himself intellectually superior.

Actually, read again and you'll realise it's me that was called a 'goon' by the person with the superiority complex. And anyway, now that you mention it, isn't 'goon' a really old term - I've just had to look it up (call me a fuckwit) to make sure I understand the meaning, and it means something like 'nincompoop', or 'ninny'. Lovely old words. Perhaps they're coming back into fashion?

im just happy you guys are actually talking about this its relivent because its happening, at least its not undebated

Thanks Funkliquid, in oder to realise it, you have to be in touch and out and about mixing, and talking to people. Enough said

I'm sorry that i didn't make myself clear f:lux, i wasn't addressing you. I was refering to the post by Ben Morris.

Take it easy girls you dont have to cover your selves.
If the remarks from other elements where aimed at me I am well used to it by now, as said before, non constructive attacks at me are pointless, but it says a lot about a persons personality, some of which look quite arrogant, and out of touch.?
Would it be possible for us to get back to issues instead of saying sorry for miss reading statements that are aimed at others, and are not going any where. If I hurt someone saying this Sorry.sorry sorry, I am begining to sound like. The head of the Met?( I did not record it so dont worry)Joke?Sorry

What? This is why I originally picked you up for posting the thread Sebastion because I knew it would turn into another stupid one like it has done.

I don't think this can go unnoticed:

I would explain the situation propperly but I dont think that this is the place to do it, and the fact is that others here come up with the informnation that backs me up in any case,and you will see what I have said, vaguley is happening.

From Sebastion, Plymouth, Devon U.K.and International, Mon Mar 13, 13:27

Look, Sebastion should be allowed to forward subjects for discussion, uncensored and without having to apologise all the time! That people say they disagree with him, or anyone else, on a given subject is one thing, but dictating what subjects can and can't be talked about is out of order. If this is another one of his threads got to pot, it's because people are turning it around and away from the issue he's actually raised and back on him as a person.