Or is Chance Generator just a fancy name for dice?

f:lux those are good comments you have made. Any others? Or perhaps you do have better things to be doing, however I noticed you did come back later to ask a question. Perhaps it's now on your mind. Did I mention that arrogance is not part of the Chance Generator?

Hi Jake, anything you forgot to mention at the outset is your problem - respect the structure! If you're going to change the rules mid-game it's a no-play (only gods can afford to be that arrogant)...

I think the point I was vaguely trying to make yesterday was that if chance (chaos etc) is pretty much the norm across the entire universe, isn't its naturally occurring abundance such that there's little need to induce it artificially?

Or, you need to define what it is you hope to achieve. A theorem is supposed to be an idea accepted as a demonstrable truth, but yours reads more like a set of terms and conditions. You've named the product and supplied the legal small print, but what's the actual concept? What "game" are we playing? If I can do whatever I want, really anything at all, why would I give you any credit for what I do by saying it's the result of a Chance Generator??

Having said all that, I bet you've not had the responses to you posting that you expected. So perhaps you are actually succeeding in a way? You've certainly managed to draw me in - and I am busy but I'm also bored so could obviously use the stimulus, for which I thank you!

Hi again f:lux. This is cool. I must admit your response is intriguing. Although I do consider myself a very open person and I'd like to think I have a genuine interest in what many people are thinking and doing regardless of their backgrounds.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by artificial. We are we. I'm also not sure what I'm trying to achieve. There is a sense though that the whole idea may simply be a sensuous one, but I think that's ok, I don't feel innocuous. Have you not read the first line? How can I be given credit for something that has no intellectual property?
Contradictions are inevitable I'm afraid!

There is one particular line in your latest response that I really admire, but I won't be disclosing that today.

Cheers and thank you too..
Jake

Right...

Jake...

I'm starting to understand...

So the Chance Generator...

DOES NOT contain arrogance.
DOES NOT contain constructive criticism
DOES NOT welcome any form of challenging views
DOES contain sarcasm and mild angst

Yep! I'm converted sign me up!!!

OK Jake. Have you heard of the Six Degrees of Separation theory? This too is for anyone to use freely, but the person who first posited it still gets some credit for it! Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation
You and I could test this theory. Given that neither of us knew the other even existed a couple of days ago, what are the chances that the only thing separating us is 5 other people? Or separating either of us from Kevin Bacon even?? If we were to go ahead and choose to test this theory in some way, any chance connections would be discovered through what, in my humble opinion, would be an artificial structure.

This is just illustrative, of course.

What I'm trying to say is that your theorem isn't one. That you don't know exactly what you hope to achieve is fine actually, as are the contradictions, but the lack of starting point - even just the hint of one! - makes the whole thing inaccessible. It's a vacuum. So how can it be creative?

As for "we are we", well. No, not really.

Never underestimate the power of ideas.

And now I'm just going to carry on living my life. Is that random enough?

Ciao!

P.S. I think the best thing you've written (well I like it) is "...I don't feel innocuous". I have no idea why, but for me that's like saying "I'm not blancmange" or something. How cute is that?

All this back and forth business has made me think that maybe it's a good idea not to try and put words and rules[?] to intuition.

I'm not even sure if intuition is the right word.

Anyway, I personally am not a big fan of two dollar words and cryptic explanations, and artistic statements, and telling me your concept. I do it, and if you get it, you get it. If you don't, then that's fine. Just be nice and don't slam the door on your way out!

For BI-POLARoid and eucinpyos, 'never underestimate the power of ideas' (f:lux SHOWstudio forum, 2005). Of course challenging views are welcome. I don't think I've ever slammed a door eucinpyos. That's hot f:lux, like a g-spot.

Also, eucinpyos I agree. Maybe words and things do not to be associated with intuition. Maybe, maybe, maybe. I think that all the time don't you? I just had a look at your website. I like your photos. I think the lighting is interesting. They look like dreams in a way (well in my opinion anyway). Are you not telling me your concept through your photographs? Maybe you are, maybe you are not.
Cheers
Jake

Jake,

That door comment was a general statement concerning my views on others and how they perceive my work. It wasn't directly aimed at you. Anyhow, thank you for looking at my website and the compliment [I take your comments as such].

My concept? What is my concept? I don't know what it is. You should tell me what you think it is, I would like to know.

I can tell you my formula though. It took me seven years to work it out, starting with my first ever roll at 14 of my cats.

my world+viewfinder+the right moment=[maybe a] good picture

Just so you know, that first roll was complete shit. But it was the start. And that's why it's important.