So I guess that you got a littal angree Ben

i'm in indonesia btw, the country where all the world knows because of its terrorism. but trust me, anybody should try to come here than seeing on tv. it's a nice country.
and u're quite right in some way flux, i had a lot of friends from aussie, us and uk who came for a holiday in bali or java, and they end up as a smoker here, they just can't help it to see so many people smoking and seems to enjoying them a lot.
and indonesian's cigs are different than marlboro or capri or other western tobacco. here we use clove to cover the tobacco instead of papers like marlboro which make the taste and smell very different, and it also lasted long. the comparison is like 1:2 or 1:3 depends on is it with filter or not.
and although it had more tar and nicotine (it can reach to 25 mg of tar and 1.5 mg of nicotine) it's considered healthier because it uses clove instead of paper.

In Central and southern Europe, smoking still seems to be a very social habit. It seems that the closer to the Equater you go the the more people smoke, and stronger the cigaretts, just cross the water from Britain to France and you find very cheep tobbaco.
There is an old saying that if you where meant to smoke, you would be born with a chimney on your head.
So thats why we have a knose?
As mentioned before I fouind it easier to wuite without any gimick, I had a bad chest and colds for over a year, but after that felt great and healthy again, its the system cleaning its self out, Also your breath is clean again so you can kiss without the person your kissing trying to break away from you,and run a mile, thats a good enough reson to give up I think?
Forget the patches and other gimics, if you feel as though you are getting tense or angry, go for a swim or run to get rid of the exes, energy and stress, you will feel like a new man, or woman.he coughed

I've just remembered I once had lunch with an amazing French woman. She'd just turned 95 at the time and starting to get quite frail, so I waited till the end of the meal then asked if she'd excuse me a minute while I went outside for a ciggie, and she begged me to smoke in front of her, preferably blowing the fumes her way. While she was thoughly enjoying my secondhand smoke, she explained that she'd started smoking herself in her mid-teens, which I worked out would have been sometime just after the 1st World War. She progressed from cigarettes to cigars just before the 2nd World War, which she confessed to inhaling (the cigar smoke, not the war), and only gave up in the early 80's because her doctor said she had to choose between cigars and caffeine. A medical phenomenon. But the really scary thing was that, though she hadn't smoked in about 15 years, she said her cravings had never gone away. Damn.

Is this serious? a fashionable way to stop smoking, I know what you mean though!
Just like exaust fumes from a city bus,just like breath on a cold day?........
A new report from cancer research in the U.K said today "People who suddenly give up smoking are far mor likely to suceed, Almost two-thirds who stop on the spur of the moment STOP! for at least siix months"!!??. This compared to half of the smokers who planned to quit in advance. They say that giving up ciggs is as difficult as coming off Heroin or Crack! does anyone agree with this? also there are designated area's at places outside of employer's workspaces, like crammed persrex prisoncells for everyone who has the need to ...GO! why do you think that there is legislation in the U.K for people to smoke but not do other drugs in de-creasingly public places if they are as addictive? TAX?? P.s I've stopped it is difficult on a daily basis. Ahem,Splutter.

No way, coming off the crack and heroin was easy compared to the cigs...

I must admit! your consistant ha,ha!

Its a bit of a drag this, smells good though Ben, has anyone thought about asking Kate how to get of substances?, and how is it all going Ben, a bit of a drag. I guess

After smoking for five years, and trying many times to quit, I've finally done it, somewhat. Somewhat , because I chew Nicorette all the time and I had a phase where I was occasionally smoking cigars though I cut that out. But I haven't had a single drag of a cigarette in 10 months.

Yeah, the 'cravings will go away after 3-4 days' is utter b.s., it doesn't go away but it does get easier to deal with. And the delusion that 'smoking rocks'...after you start to feel healthier you realise how idiotic smoking is. There's no pleasure in it other then satisfying your craving for nicotine.

I still remember how, at the last drag from a cig, how disgusting it tastes, how it triggers your gag reflex and makes you feel nauseous, weak. The suffocating stench of the cigarette smoke in the room. Worrying about dying a slow, painful death from lung cancer. Premature aging. How your lungs feel like leather. It's just retarded and I don't miss it AT ALL.

I'm with you, it's been nearly 3 weeks and finally coughed up all the tar and shat that was in my lungs (I think), and feel like much stronger with the heart of an ox. I was thinking I smoked 20 a day and enjoyed about 4 of them, the rest was almost forcing them down sometimes, and thats not good. I felt weaker and on edge a lot more too.

Still miss the snouts in the pub though, I've turned into one of those hand fiddlers who used to smoke but now just plays with other peoples lighters.