In reply to Patch:
What??
Open Forum
Free speech
Living a labelled life. It can be quite sad. Humans work like machines to operate machines.
We are in a consumer society where governments are only interested in what goes in to the treasury, and is very eager to fit people in to categories at a young age through an ironing out process on intellect at school, so that some people are destined for the traditional highly paid jobs in a closed shop entry, and then old boy system that self protects its self.
We as creativeâ??s quite often break the mold, but there are still areas in the arts where the same thing happens, and unless you are classed as an academic, Emperors new clothes perhaps
You do not have much of a say in what is or is not art, and the value of your art is effected by the same academic process which protests its own in the way that other areas of professional organizations do, and creates wealth for them selves in the same way.
In a consumer robotic society the least important thing is the person, its the money in the system that is the most important thing, Money is status and power in our world.
In reply to Chris Summerfield:
Sweet cheesus! Are you really entertaining Patch’s horrible, arrogant and deluded views?
“We as creatives”? Don’t you think that some of these ‘ordinary’ people are be creative too? I wonder who funded Patch’s 6 years at photography school?
Money is not status, it has status applied to it by the fashions of our culture. To some people having money is not fashionable, or is unfashionable, so it has no status. See?
In reply to Karl Fuler:
I think that you are miss reading what I have said, I certainly am not arrogant I was not just on about art , No one is any better than anyone else in any walk of life and I have said this in many threads here in the past. Which is closer to the point I was making in my statement but some people think they are.
In reply to Chris Summerfield:
sorry if I misread your statement Chris - though I wasn't calling you arrogant. Patch's post got me riled.
Sorry Patch...and is not meant as a negative criticism but more as an observation and forgive me for intruding but...every time you bring up an
' x ' subject , it seems as if you loose interest or just give up by not showing up when something is being answered about what you write....or about something you want to know....You give the impression to have the drive but not the 'goal' ...if we can call it that !....and that is a pity because the FORUM, being made available to all viewers, .....is a great place (in my personal view ) to exchange ' agrees' or ' disagrees' on different subjects, just like the one you are trying to ventilate , and the way you feel personally about something ...so I hope you will return and let us know your thoughts to agree or disagree, defend your point of view or let be ' convinced' or not by other different perspectives on the matter :):):)...that would be cavalier of you..:):)
In reply to Galileo's Universe:
A good intelligent response and thanks, I am possibly over sensitive at times, and get frustrated buddy.
In reply to Chris Summerfield:
hahaha..not at all... in my opinion it has nothing to do with being sensitive...as the saying goes..." give to Cesar what belongs to Cesar and give to God what belongs to God '...it is jus a matter in ... the importance of fairness....: and the beauty of a dialogue is that we can put across points of view where the participants are prepare to give and take ....and of course all in proportion if possible... :):):)