Does society as a whole, well, our society where traditionally men have been the dominate bread winners, even though women have been the backbones for ages, perceive strong, independant, resourceful, unconventional women as a threat to the establishment?
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Free speechKate Moss and the idea of an independant, unconventional woman
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The press keeps repeating the same idea of Kate over and over, that she parties, she drinks, drugs, smokes, she is never seem with her daugher, etc, etc. What they are doing is to arouse in the public of-"Look at her, she is not behaving like a mother should!" And it's the whole notion of a woman who goes against the grain that the media uses to inflame, and it works, because as a society, people expect women to behave a certain way? If one looks deeper into it, the whole thing is a bit more culturally and sexually complexed than just scandals.
In reply to KaWai:
Kate Moss a threat to the establishment?XDD
Any people (being male or female;being famous or not) who´s into drugs and alcohol is not a good adult figure for a children. Is Kate Moss a bad mother? I don´t personally know her, so I cannot tell.
But a father who takes drugs; and who is all the time drunk is not a good father for a children. Translate this last sentence to a mother, and it is the same.
I don´t think press is against women, just because they are women. They are only interested in selling mysery! And no matter from where that mysery comes from.
For me, Kate Moss is just a model. It was the face of 90s fashion, and Calvin Klein muse...but that is all! There are anonymous women out there working hard to help people, who are more important than a model. Yes, Kate Moss is an icon; but I prefer the work of Mother Theresa of Calcuta helping the poor people of India. There are more important things that fashion.
In reply to Galileo's Universe:
It's not about the drugs, i hope this isn't a discussion just circling about her drug use...besides, the press keeps repeating that idea of speculated drug use, the truth might be more boring than the stuff they wrote about. The press, media, had done it forever, they are like the people in the village, fanning the fire, remember Ingrid Bergman? Today it's not such a big deal, during that time, US Senate and the whole US administration outcasted her, she was forced to seperate from her own daughter, because of the moral standard people claimed society had, and what she did would destroy moral standard or something? People with independant minds that do things not within the status quote often would suffer because others would watch over and drop comments such as-you have a daughter, should behave as such, stop partying, act like a mother. There's a notion, an image of what a mother should act.
Who in society uphold moral standards as expected? What are the fundamental moral standards anyways?
I feel women often were the ones in such circumstances to suffer, unfortunately, in every society, in ancient and modern times, women were hung to death, stoned to death, prosecuted, outcasted, drown in a cage. And for what? It was often over a personal choice, a choice that offended a group a people, but physically she had done no harm to nobody, and not threatening a way of life.
What happened to the guys in the recording studio that night? The guys never really faced any personal, legal, financialy consequences, only Kate Moss did.
Eucinpyos I agree with you that models shouldn't be recognized. They're well paid, but it's not as if they're creatives themselves.
KaiWai, I appreciate your argument that women are held to a higher standard than men in the media. The second half of your argument, however, I don't like: That Kate Moss is denigrated because she's a strong, independent woman. I don't think she's either, I think she's a very pretty- but at this point overused- model, and I think within a year or two she'll be done. Not that she won't get jobs anymore, but she'll have lost her newness and everyone will move on. Which is exactly what her superficial beauty deserves.
But I do appreciate the feminist slant ;)
In reply to st. valentine:
Take into consideration Kate has been famous for almost 20 years, the fact is she isn't new, but keeps reinventing herself-by choice or just evolved by circumstances, people find she is a surviver and fasinated by the dramas of her life, which is a very powerful appeal when it comes to inspiring projection from people, she will be in less demands in one or 2 years naturally just the fact that she will become a bit older for the industry, and there will be other news. But Kate is a celebrity not just a model, the modeling industry's rules don't exactly apply to her.