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Kate Moss and the idea of an independant, unconventional woman

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KaWai
KaWai
United States

That's really what's controversial about Kate Moss, is it? The fact that she is full of contradiction-her delicate face and waif like figure, but obviously underneath is iron determination, her care-free spirit yet extremely professional and smart business moves, and being extremely independant, carries on her life outside of conventional ways, and made some risky choices along the way. I don't remember a model in recent times that has inspired so many discussions-political, social, and fashion wise.

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eucinpyos
eucinpyos
Japan

Kate Moss needs to settle down and start being a good mom. She already had her unconventional, independent and free days. But a child isn't something to leave to nannies and friends so you can go out and get smashed.

Oh, and Doherty is the last choice for a father figure in my eyes.

"Hey, what does your Dad do?"
"Uhhh. He tells people he sings, but really he just shoots up, goes to court and sprays cameras with fake blood from a syringe."
"Oh."
"Yeah. My parents are media whores."

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KaWai
KaWai
United States
In reply to eucinpyos:

But that's the discussion-what's a good mom? What's the standard? Is there one? Would she have gotten the same reactions if she's a man? She is a working woman and a high profile one so she is balancing the same issues as most working women nowadays. What's the idea of the making of a good woman? Who is to say? Anybody criticized members of the Rolling Stones of not being good fathers? They were always on the road, so is there double standard?

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In reply to KaWai:

The problem is not her work. The real problems are drugs and alcohol. And if you mix a lot of work+alcohol/drugs+being with Pete Doherty:BOOOM!!

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KaWai
KaWai
United States
In reply to jeanclaudecourt:

We are not talking about just work, it's the whole. But would you have used the same judgement on a man? not defending Kate, but the truth of her lifestyle might be more normal than the papers have made it to be, or worse, but she might live no different than some Hollywood movie stars in the golden days, think Joan Crawford, or Betty Davis, all the cocktail parties, and working, and leaving the kids with the nannies. Those women were pioneered, so is the idea of an unconventional woman controversial?

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KaWai
KaWai
United States
In reply to jeanclaudecourt:

Drugs and alcohol-Keith Richards, anybody criticized him as a father? This is not defending Kate honestly, but the standard of what's expected of men and women obviously is different and the expectation for men to be decent fathers so far sounds REALLY LOW.

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KaWai
KaWai
United States
In reply to eucinpyos:

eucinpyos, like your work,they are kinda Warhol like, snapshots like, but with better tones.

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In reply to eucinpyos:

XDDDDDDD Your reply really made me laugh!!! I totally agree with you.

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KaWai
KaWai
United States

People are not as harsh to Pete as a father apparently.

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In reply to KaWai:

Yes I think the same about men. A person into drugs and alcohol cannot be a good father/mother/whatever. I know what I am talking about, because of my father...

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