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Ben Morris
United Kingdom

I'm just writing this note as I'm a bit curious about other peoples opinons about working in London.

I've been shooting in London for 5 years or so (after assisting), but I also work in many other countries and cities, for arguments sake - Reyjkavik (Iceland) and Paris.

I use those two cities as examples for a reason. Whenever I work in Paris, what I do (as a fashion photographer) is considered an artform. I work (normally) with glorious people, we work hard and we take it seriously because of the above. You get paid properly as you are RESPECTED as an artist. (I believe the current rate per page for dazed and confused is £12 or something...))

In Iceland on the few pleasurable occasions I have had chance to go there I have been met with fantastic originality and creative genius. I feel for the people I know who live and work there, as I know there is only a small creative output available in comparison to London. I would say that compared to the majority of plebs living under 'creative umbrellas' here, you could all, and should all be making a killing.

I mean lets be honest, London is wank really. I read all these articles in papers and magazines, about how London is 'the most creative place in the world', etc. Is it? Maybe four five years ago, but now? I don't fucking think so.

I'm sure it's a 'fun' place for mincey stylists and the like, but seriously when was the last time something exciting happenned here (be it an editorial, happenning, gallery, whatever).

And before you say 'well why don't you push to do something then?'. I'm sick of the place. All the good artists have moved out long ago....

R.I.P ?

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Is this a question, or a rant?

I had a similar opinion about France to yours until I actually went to live there, now I feel about it the same way as I do London - it's a nice place to visit. As an English person and, worse, a woman, with the added disadvantage of looking about 10 years younger than I am (yay wrinkles!) I had a terrible time professionally, constantly being told to fuck off back to where I came from and leave the work to indiginous card carrying penis bearers thankyou. And, apart from the penis bit, that's almost a littoral translation.

Example. I once did a really good reportage, in my own time, with my own money. I then made the mistake of showing it to the people who'd organised the event photographed, thinking they might be interested - and my god were they! I was more or less kidnapped, driven around the countryside around Paris for a couple of hours by the directors of communication and PR while they threatened me with physical violence if I didn't give the exclusive rights in perpetuity to my images on the grounds that if they hadn't organised the event I'd have had nothing to photograph. Shit, if they liked my work THAT much, why didn't they just buy it like normal people!?

Actually, I've dined out on that story, and there are dozens of others I could tell. But that's enough rant from me for this post. And I'm sure there was a point I was trying to make... Oh yeah, shit happens EVERYWHERE - London doesn't have a corner on the market. Voila!

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Ben Morris
United Kingdom

I know shit happens everywhere, I agree with what you are saying. I just think London is pretty shit at the moment, with little going on in excitement terms and with lots of tossers. Of course everyone might feel New York is like that, or Paris is, I'm just saying that I feel that way about London, and wanted to know other peoples opinions.

The other thing about artforms and traits is wasted in London. As I've said before, any St. Martins student with a wellington boot on their head and a disposable camera is a photographer these days...

I have an exhibition opening tonight in London, I might see how that goes down being real pictures and all...

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Gosh, why didn't you just say about the exhibition in the first place? Why not make it work for you by telling everybody here where it is, how long it's on for etc and in such a way as to encourage people to come along and see, meet the artist...

Honestly, as 'chat up' lines go, your Londinium post is a bit of a bomb isn't it? Be more inviting!

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SP

Maybe its more a question of not being so concerned with what everyone else is doing and concentrate on yourself? If we're realistic London is just as creative as anywhere else in the world, you just dont necessarily see and hear it 24/7. No-one can be in every pocket of the city at all times so you can't tell what is being produced/created. And if the circles you run in aren't inspiring you then move on.

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Ben Morris
United Kingdom

One small exhibition

60 Exmouth Market, Clerkenwell, EC1

It's too rammed tonight as it's opening night, but if you want to go see pop in and speak to the curator.

On a different note, I don't think you are getting the point about the London thing, so never mind.

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eucinpyos
eucinpyos
Japan

Whoa, well... that ruins everything. I was planning on coming to London in the fall for a couple of months to see what I can do.

But if it's that bad, I guess I might as well just go to Alaska and work on that oil rig.

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shaw
shaw
United Kingdom

no....... dont go to that oil rig in alaska.it would be difficult.then you would win a fashion photography competition,exhibit all over the world,sell your prints to the ghetty museum,have a book published,...and thats not what you want .

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Such a comment is spoken through closed eyes.

Ask not what your city can do for you. Ask what you can do for your city.

Ghandi's words...You must be the change you want to see in the world.

R.I.P.? summer comes, and summer goes.

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Ben Morris
United Kingdom

Good grief...

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