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Hello Pony I would love to see examles of your work maby you can mail me thanks for your views and conversation Sebastion
From Chris Summerfield, 10:16 Thu 09 Jun 2005 | Profile +++++ | 1646 posts
L'imitation peut être belle! Au XIXe siecle, s'en degager un style en architecture = l'eclectisme! imitant avant tout des styles anterieurs, puis s'en inspirant, puis en degager les choses les plus fortes & hop! un nouveau style était né!...anyway, maintenant tout le monde copie tout le monde! la chose qui m'a le plus frappé était ya pas si longtemps, une campagne YSL totallement pompé de Guy Bourdin! je ne voyais pas de l'Homme-Age mais plus du PomP(E)age!
L'imitation est trés presente car tout ce doit d'être COMMERCIAL avant tout! la creativité passant aprés! c'est sans doute pour celà que la mode m'ennuie en ce moment!
et pour finir je reprendrais ces mots
[QUOTE]"inspirer" is french for "to breath in"(...)[/END QUOTE]
First Breath IN
Second Breath OUT
you keep what you need in you & let go out what you don't need but...
sorry i'm tired i can't talk in english if any pbs ask i'll translate!
From DUCHAmP:Is/NoT!DEaD, 16:01 Sat 11 Jun 2005 | Profile +++++ | 12 posts
'' First Breath IN
Second Breath OUT
you keep what you need in you & let go out what you don't need but... ''
Now that sounds interesting !
Online translators are the devil but i'll copy and paste ...
''The imitation can be beautiful! At the XIXe century, of degager a style is structured about it = eclecticism! imitating above all the former styles, then being inspired some, then in degager the strongest things & hop! a new style was né!... anyway, maintaining everyone copies everyone! the thing which struck me the most was ya not so a long time, a campaign YSL totallement pumped of Guy Bourdin! I did not see an Man-Age but more of PomP(E)age! The imitation is trés presente because all it must be COMMERCIAL above all! creativity passing aprés! it is undoubtedly for celà that the fashion annoys me in this moment! and to finish I would take again these words''
'' you keep what you need in you & let go out what you don't need but... ''
But ?
In French the word imitate doesn't have the pejorative sense it can in English. There's a fine line between inspiartion and imitation, and another between imitaion and plagiarism?
From f:lux, 00:34 Sun 12 Jun 2005 | Profile +++++ | 670 posts
a "plagiat" is a real copy/paste! it is different from imitation! Coco C. really loved "imitation" because she said "if they imitate what i do it means what i do is great & famous"! i'm not really sure about the quote!
look too all these artists that are imitating Duchamp or Warhol! to me some are "plagiat"
'' you keep what you need in you & let go out what you don't need but... ''
But ?
(...) other people can find things interesting in things you thrown away!
From DUCHAmP:Is/NoT!DEaD, 12:15 Mon 13 Jun 2005 | Profile +++++ | 12 posts
Looking at what other photographers are doing is fascinating, vital even - but only up to a point? Even if I had the means and opportunities to work like Nick Knight, for example, I’m not sure I’d really want to. I mean, his stuff technically absolutely brilliant, the imagery itself is extremely powerful, and the man’s sensibility and intelligence seems so evident in it, or in all that I’ve seen anyway – he appears to be very aware that, as in the contemporary art scene, fashion photographers are generally expected to push boundaries if they want to be considered “important”, and in some of the bloody, violent imagery he’s produced particularly there seems to be a strong photographic response to violent trends in mainstream cinema, to give but one example. Say Tarantino, or other similar, frozen. Or, kind of Joel Peter-Witkin in colour - but acceptable because without the morbid cynicism. It’s hyped, it’s unreal - because it’s very digital. And it’s still infinitely stylish.
By comparison, Katy Ganner (thank you cshaw!) seems to me differently edgy somehow. But then, I’m now looking at her stuff and thinking, I wish I’d done that! In the best possible way, as in pure wonder rather than envy – envy being the death of creativity, in my humble opinion. I can’t compare her work to mine, because I see her in it, not me, but I do instantly find myself identifying with her stuff, now that I’ve discovered her (where have I been?!) and therefore I’m far more likely to be personally inspired by it. How that admiration will translate into my own work I don’t know. But just as she may have been inspired by Arbus, perhaps, I might be inspired by both - along with many others, even those whose approaches and styles may seem completely divergent.
It’s perhaps hard for many to admit, but for a lot of photographers their work is a distillation and amalgamation process, whether they like it or not: a mix-and-match of influences, as if photographers/artists become the embodiment of unique cocktails of work by other photogrpahers they identify with, plus other media like painting, advertising, film, sculpture etc. Melting pot. Each artist/photographer having secret ‘recipes’, the ingredients and proportions of which ferment in their distinctive id’s, exude in their work. Identifying the different strands can be instructive in the extreme, and be more affirming than might be imaginable, for those who aren’t afraid to look closely at what they do and why.
So, the sources of inspiration may be many. But the inspiration itself is in you.
From f:lux, 21:46 Wed 15 Jun 2005 | Profile +++++ | 670 posts