Thanks Flux will check it out and get backon the subject.
Thanks Flux will check it out and get backon the subject.
From Chris Summerfield, 15:07 Tue 28 Jun 2005 | Profile +++++ | 1736 posts
"My original post I guess was about asking everyone that reads the SHOWstudio forum where they felt they are at creatively."
Do you think about these things when you create something?
From Ethan, 06:31 Wed 29 Jun 2005 | Profile +++++ | 49 posts
I think it all boils down to this question:
which side of the fence do you fall on--the side that acknowledges post-modernism, or the side that ignores it?
From what I can make out, Postmoderism is an un defined period, about 10 to 15 years ago and can take in most types of creative art, so it is a very wde subject.
From Chris Summerfield, 09:28 Wed 29 Jun 2005 | Profile +++++ | 1736 posts
It's funny 990000 I ask if postmodernism is dead and what that means for our creative perspectives now, and you say maybe it was never alive in the first place! I had forgotton somehow that perspective.
Where do you sit in this discussion? when you are creating something do you ever ponder these issues and think what are the ramifications of your style? do you deconstruct your own work?
I noticed Franks post earlier "does anyone intend to be postmodern?" and that really surprised and confused me too.
f:lux do these issues influence your own work?
From Ethan, 14:48 Wed 29 Jun 2005 | Profile +++++ | 49 posts
"never alive in the first place?" hahaha! who said it ever left?
plusquamperfect is a tense you would need to express postmodernism. the idea of postmodernism is hard to grasp with this lack of complexity in the english language. to declare its death is certainly a way to cope with that fact.
From duvel, 03:24 Thu 30 Jun 2005 | Profile +++++ | 26 posts
what am i talking about? it's not plusquamperfect. ok. if it's not dead then kill it now!
From duvel, 03:54 Thu 30 Jun 2005 | Profile +++++ | 26 posts
Hi Ethan, one of my favourite things about photography is that you really do get to shoot first and ask questions later! Well, maybe not all of the time. But even when you set things up, direct them as much as possible, there are still surprises - you look at the results afterwards and thay'll be an image or so and you'll think, where did THAT come from??
Suddenly I'm remembering reading somewhere that absolutely everything we see, every single micro second's worth of visiual information we take in, is stored away in our brains. We just tend to consciously access a very small percentage of that mass of material - subconsciously much more probably. Going to exhibitions, flicking through specific magazines etc is a way of quality-contolling some part of the imagery you absorb, and that you're more likely to be influenced by subsequently. In a way, this debate could here rejoin the "Inspiration vs. Imitation" topic posted elsewhere?
As for me, I ask myself a lot of questions. But whether I'm postmodern or not isn't one of 'em.
From f:lux, 10:05 Thu 30 Jun 2005 | Profile +++++ | 672 posts
Hi again Ethan, writing this in the wait for the very last "Dress me up, dress me down" session...
Seem to have skipped over a few things, unintentionally. As I understand 990000, he wasn't saying postmodernism is dead, just that it's possible to ignore it (correct me if I'm wrong 990000!). As for your "Postmodernism makes no assumtions about the existence of an objective reality indeed if the real world is out there we would have no way of knowing" - isn't this a very old, even 19th century, philosophical issue here? And a very "I'm the centre of the universe" one at that, since overtaken by many other ways of thinking?
'Movements' are so difficult identify at present. The only specific one I can think of right now is cinema related, Lars von Triers et Cie. They did issue an old style manifesto - and how long did that last? Were they postmodernist? (close your eyes, leave the room, and whether they are/were there or not, they exist, believe me).
You seem to me to be very absorbed by the whole postmodernist issue because you're thinking about it so hard. This effort transpires in everything you've written about the subject. As a result, you've got me thinking more about it too, at the very least. And as I think about it, I suppose I just feel immersed - the work I do is reactive, so it inevitably filters through, along with many other influences. And that's fine by me.
Oh, catch you later - time for the grand finale!
From f:lux, 20:10 Thu 30 Jun 2005 | Profile +++++ | 672 posts