may i just say, i think raf simons' latest for jil sander was the most boring thing i have ever seen. i used to like him... funny.

The annoying thing with Joy Division is the hushed sense of reverence that's supposed to accompany any mention of them, the whole tortured artist deification thing.

Fashion-wise, pics of them don't look that dated; they look more clean-cut and business-like, closer to Kraftwerk then the scene they were associated with at the time.

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