http://www.flickr.com/photos/oh_no_whoa/
signed,
not at the "top of the tree," either
For a few years now I have dreamed about assisting one of the photographers that has inspired me so much but due to my age and need to earn money it looks like that dream is slowly starting to drift away…heart breaking I know! However, I have been very lucky to get the odd day here and there working voluntarily for my inspirations -Nick & Solve as well as Rankin and Mark Lebon and feel that I have at least the potential and small experience to go it alone working as a commercial photographer away from London. I am in the process of having a website built etc but wondered if any of you out there have also found yourself kissing the dream good bye and settling for plan b. I would be interested to see the quality of work produced by photographers like myself that are not at the top of the tree so to speak but still have a burning passion for couture fashion photography. It would be great to see your websites. Incidentally I am particularly influenced by Knight, Sundsbo, Miesel, McDean…
Please get in touch, Patrick.
Started by Patch, 11:50 Sun 27 Aug 2006 | Accound deleted | 85 posts
http://www.flickr.com/photos/oh_no_whoa/
signed,
not at the "top of the tree," either
From OH NO WHOA!, 06:09 Tue 29 Aug 2006 | Profile +++++ | 1 posts
I defintiely settled for plan B! But I'm still happy with my job. I realised my mortgage, flat, partner, potential kids and unfortunatley my health meant I needed stability financially. I have great respect for all who work relying on a freelance wage. Since becoming a booker I can see the difference between having an agent and going alone. If I went out now as a phtoographer I would be alot more confident as I know what to do. But the down side is I haven't been able to take a picture in a couple of years, which makes me sad. BUt I'm changing all that by developing and opening up my own company. If successful it will eventually give me the time to take photos whilst still earning a living. Fingers crossed!
From bina79, 09:38 Tue 29 Aug 2006 | Profile +++++ | 81 posts
Hi Patch,
One of my favourote quotes is from John Lennon..."Life is what happens when you're making other plans".
Never loose sight of your dreams, never give up on something of if you truly want it. I think that when we follow our heart we are guided along our path. Sometimes what we think to be certain is just another piece in the puzzle, which leads us further, and closer to where we want to be.
You speak as if you're settling for something less..who's to say that where you are right now isn't the best place for you to be?
It's a tough field to choose if you want success by popular definition. I think the main thing is to be less concerned about where you think you should be by relating it to others successes...and as an artist being less concerned by others, and more concerned with your own work. Get your head down, find your self, work your tits off, and hopefully one day look up to see that things have changed.
It's only when we expect the unexpected that we are able to see it.
By the way you are speaking, I can probably guess you're good at what you do. It sounds like you have a great passion, so good luck to you on your path.
From 11:11, 12:01 Wed 30 Aug 2006 | Profile +++++ | 28 posts
That's good advice 11:11, I think you're right in some ways. Why should I give up something I am truly passionate about because I may be doing something slightly different in the mean time! Surely happiness is the most important thing in life and if that's what makes me happy...besides, could I really give up anyway?! I am addicted to the point that other peoples images can bring me an enormous amount of excitement!
I must admit, recognition is important to me. That may sound sad and materialistic but I gauge my success on breaking in to the industry with my own individual style. I love what I do and will continue regardless but it would mean the world to me to be commisoined by one of the known fashion mags. Although my style will take another year or so of refining and I need to get better technicaly.
But hey, if I stop I will never develop my style right?!
From From Patch, 13:04 Wed 30 Aug 2006 | Account deleted | 85 posts
Life can be whatever you want it to be Patch. If it truly nourishes you then why stop? You just have to find the way to make it work. Which is not entirely easy and why it's so easy to give up. You just have to be strong, be yourself and do your thing.
Recognition is hardly sad, nor materialistic. It's important to me also, but I don't want it to be my guiding force. My goal is to be happily immersed in what I love to do. If it's enough to make people take notice then great!
Art is afterall, or at least I believe, the forum of humanity. The place where ideas, and opinions are placed on a stage for society to scrutinise and reflect. When we pour our heart, soul, our beliefs, hopes and fears into that then a even a little recognition goes a long way.
From 11:11, 14:55 Wed 30 Aug 2006 | Profile +++++ | 28 posts
Good luck with your business also bina79, it sounds like the best of both worlds!
From 11:11, 14:57 Wed 30 Aug 2006 | Profile +++++ | 28 posts
Hopefully! But hey if not atleast I tried!!! You have to give things a go or you will never know if it's for you. Patch if it's an consolation I worked for Elaine Constantine and she, like many established names, don't achieve that known status til mid 30's. At 27 you're still young in this game. Some break out early but it's not always the way it goes. Be patient (which I'm sure you & most on this site are) but it is a key part of freelancing.
From bina79, 15:14 Wed 30 Aug 2006 | Profile +++++ | 81 posts
I read some where once that Peter Lindbergh or Patrick Demarchelier (cant remember which)did'nt pick a camera until he was 27 and I know that Mario Sorrenti did'nt assist. So maybe there are signs for optimism. I've just always had it in my head that I need to assist some one like Nick or Steven Miesel full time to fully understand studio lighting etc but maybe I can work it out on my own..or maybe not? The whole thing baffles me. Trying to understand what the industry wants next and whether or not I can fill a gap. Did you work for Elaine Constantine for long?
From From Patch, 17:29 Wed 30 Aug 2006 | Account deleted | 85 posts
I'm sure there is a story to fit every occaision as I don't think there are any hard and fast rules.
If you want break out with your own individual style, which I think I remember you saying, I think you need to dig deep and pull that out what technically re-presents you. Is this not something only you can ultimately do? To me that is the holy grail of art...to effictively communicate, staying true to my thoughts and emotions.
Does anyone actually ever know what the industry wants next? My guess is that the industry wants something fresh. They want the next big thing. I don't think you can package that. I think you can fill the gap by just being you...we are afterall distinctively individual. If you try and be something else, then you surely create a gap where you used to be? So for me, finding who I am is more relevant.
Basho said "...Don't seek to follow in the footsteps of others; seek what they sought..."
Easy,
From 11:11, 10:18 Thu 31 Aug 2006 | Profile +++++ | 28 posts