More from Singapore fashion week
So are the fashion people at the top in Europe and US so out of touch with the rest of the world? Or they just don't care or refuse to see what's going on in the rest of the world? Photo-Singapore fashion week
From KaWai, 18:32 Wed 06 Aug 2008 | Profile +++++ | 1221 posts
Seems black models could find more work in Singapore or South Asia than in Europe at the moment, as Singapore is so cosmopolitan and is the cross road of South Asia and the rest of Asia. Singapore are more open to using dark skin ethnic models than Japan and China, as they could represent a significant portion of the population of that region. Photo-South Asia fashion magazine
From KaWai, 18:39 Wed 06 Aug 2008 | Profile +++++ | 1221 posts
KaWai, we get it! Yes, there are 'mainstream' fashion mags such as Vogue and Elle in many Asian countries, but they represent the values and mores of those nations in such a different way to those in the UK; I doubt Vogue India is running pieces on bisexuality or abortion rights. And I doubt that black models would have any easier a time of finding exposure in those sectors than they do in the West.
It's heartbreaking that as China, Russia, India and Brazil appear set to enter the world stage Africa sinks deeper into desperation and despair. Far from being appealingly 'exotic', alluringly mysterious, or an exciting business prospect, Africa brings only horror stories to Western news programmes, forming, like suicide bomb attacks in the Middle East, a blurred trail of gore and terror in the minds of attention deficit young Westeners.
Unsavoury assumptions abound among certain scientists that black people are somehow predisposed toward savagery and irrationality, and even liberals, in their desire to represent all equally routinely insult those minorities, recalling Kipling's pontification on the 'white man's burden'. I sometimes find the call for black representation in high fashion also troublingly double edged.
In the East expectations are no more positive; a racial tier system with black people firmly at the bottom is ingrained in the minds of many Muslims, as a Muslim friend recently informed me. Anime flicks from Japan portray black American characters as sex crazed thugs barely capable of a grunt. Perhaps in Asia, with its attitudes toward race, class, womens' rights and sexual freedoms that would strike many of us as cold, there is the genuine belief that 'aspirational' and 'black' just don't go together.
And what's arguably more peculiar is the disproportionally high use of white models in Asian magazines and commercials. Where were Asians in the campaign for Rogatis menswear, a Korean brand marketed in Korea? Japanese women regularly visits surgeons to have their eyes widened (though, in fairness, fake tan sales would shrivel without white women) and Eurasian looks have long been popular in the East, from pop stars and romantic leads to Manga superheroes. As a music journalist once commented, it doesn't spring from any sense of Eastern inferiority, it's just odd.
The ascendancy of Russia, with it's appalling popular drift toward fascist sympathy, as an economic powerhouse will hardly improve things. And it's scandalous that Brazilian designers in a recent fashion season hired only three black models between them, all male. The one thing to take comfort in, and great comfort, is the growing popularity of black stars in movies and popular music. Will Smith could never have carried a movie on his name alone twenty years ago. Black women from Oprah Winfrey to Queen Latifah and Beyonce Knowles (brassy dye job and all, unfortunately) serve as role models for women of varying ages and all racial groups.
What black people need to do now is give greater voice to positive, classy and aspirational black figures like Jesse Jackson, Dionne Warwick and Bill Cosby and kick the 50 Cents and Li'l Kims into the alley where they belong. Their influence IS damaging, and change has a finite timeframe.
Of course among Africans, even lighter skin vs. darker skin gets different perception. That type of stereotype might never go away, in cities such as Hong Kong, or Taipei or Tokyo, to have darker skin could be considered very fashionable, depending on how that person puts herself together, and it's a lot more popular to have tanned skin for Asians living in the West. I find that perception depends on where the angle is from, it changes if you look from different view point. If we only hear horror stories from Africa, then why do the press in the West insist on reporting only those stories? As if there are no uplifting stories taking place in Africa(that could explain why many Chinese were pissed at the western press that they of all different progress and human stories going on in China, insist on reporting heavily on the negatives and ignore so many other aspects, but that's another topic). There is a vibrant fashion community in South Africa, do fashion magazines in the west report on it? They are beginning to report stories in China, India, and the perception people have on China and India has changed a great deal since the 1980's. Perhaps we need to start looking elsewhere for new inspirations, and not just focus on the way western viewpoint sees things, and think that they set the standard for glamor. And different non white ethnic groups have to showcase their creation, their presentation of fashion, alongside what Vogue magazines are doing in the West, so we could see a whole range of what is actually going on around the world. I wonder, has Nick worked with fashion magazines that are not run by the white establishment? It would be easy for him to call up Trace magazine and offer to collaborate with them on fashion editorials featuring more non white models?
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From KaWai, 23:41 Wed 06 Aug 2008 | Profile +++++ | 1221 posts
Somehow you do see to forget that the whole world looks up to the WEST for so many reasons , beside the colonial ties created centuries ago ... whether that is a CURSE or a BLESSING in the matters of ' material' progress or anything else that is for each individual to decide ... Paris, London, New York are in fact the centre of the world ... however selfish that may sound, the world dreams of such places for whatever reason .... and that includes hordes of new Chinese tourists ... for them a glimpse of what is called the FREE WORLD !.....
The average westerner ... read hard working individuals are to busy with their own lives in order to pay their very high taxes and bills, trying to keep going ... they are not really thinking about what is going on for example .. in the fashion community of South Africa ... or Beijing ... that's the reality !
I know you would love to see that people would be more interested in the ' positive' stories about China ... the problem is CHINA is absolutely not interested in letting reporters in ..... so please allow yourself not to be blinded by the cliche thinking that the WEST is that evil monster who have nothing positive to say about anybody else in the world ... I don't think it works like that ... and on that note I would prefer to read about what the government of South Africa or Africa in general is doing to improve the lives of all its citizens, health and education for ALL its children than to have to read about ... the' fashionable ' in SOUTH AFRICA ... but then again PRIORITIES and TASTE vary from person to person and country to country ... and in my opinion , that is each individual's right whether we agree or disagree !!
From Galileo's Universe, 20:00 Thu 07 Aug 2008 | Profile +++++ | 1453 posts
Have you been to China?
From KaWai, 03:41 Fri 08 Aug 2008 | Profile +++++ | 1221 posts
What is the point of you question I would like to know ?
From Galileo's Universe, 07:11 Fri 08 Aug 2008 | Profile +++++ | 1453 posts
I think China would like to see unbiased reports on them, I think even for Chinese in mainland, or some living overseas, they feel the west is not doing a fair job in reporting on China, as there are tons of human stories going on in that country, of successes and failures, great changes and corruptions, goods and bads, progresses and backwardness.
From KaWai, 18:27 Fri 08 Aug 2008 | Profile +++++ | 1221 posts
"China is absolutely not interested in letting reporters in..."-you wrote that based on what? Go to China right now and see how many foreign journalists who are working and living there.
From KaWai, 19:26 Fri 08 Aug 2008 | Profile +++++ | 1221 posts