In reply to Galileo's Universe:

What's wrong with some trash within the culture? I think all the good, bad, and ugly rolled into one, that's why it's interesting. Amy Winehouse, I heard she is really good and talented, her personal problems don't matter to those who love her music. I love all the gossips and the junk news, they are entertainment, they are not meant to be taken seriously. It would be really boring if the "culture" is all about rightuous, principles, pure. You know when you are getting old and not with the current pop culture when you start criticizing all the hots, ins, and current trends-take notes from the 12, 13, 14 year olds.

In reply to KaWai:

KaWai I take it you're replying to Karl ! ...LOL!...

In any case I can care less about people's personal lives....I don't consider that my personal concern... but if people are truly talented like Amy is in her case... then I'm utterly interested :):):)...a pity she just cannot keep it under control because it just overshadows her innate talent... but then again that is not for me to judge because I don't believe that you can hold entertainment artists to a pre-set of moral standards as far as the use of 'recreational' substances even if you want... and I think and believe that that's the way it has always been when reading about successful pop artists in general....

In reply to Karl Fuler:

If there's any trash in today's pop culture, it's really the paparazzi and the agencies that buy celebs photos, and the webpages feature paz photos, and the media that chooses to put so much attention on the mundane activities of celebs.
Well, back to the flowers, the people who will send flowers for this project will be the fans and the flowers will be used as part of the photoshoot, so it's not just a floral tribute to Ms.Moss.

In reply to KaWai:

Uhmmm ?? ... the PAPARAZZI always get the blame !... not entirely fair !
The paparazzi is just trying to make a living .... and WE the public always make sure that they get rewarded .... LOL!...

Why is it that we always want to blame the rain for getting soaked in water ... and not ourselves for not carrying an umbrella or a raincoat when knowing that is going to rain ...? :):):)

In reply to KaWai:

I haven't really criticised KM for her drug use, or do I look down on A Winehouse for her self abuse. It is easy to give in to such temptations and I think we all have to do some of these things every now and then. Some people find it harder to know when to stop than others and I sympathise with this.
I agree with what you said about icons completely, but what I'm criticisingis the lack of spirited rebel icons, those who would not ally themselves with trash press and big business. Everywhere I see this weak, uninspired alligance to, and fascination with trash celeb culture. No vision.

In reply to Karl Fuler:

That is why I said...there's only a ' BUSINESS CULTURE'...it is all about the money , society is totally corrupted by it one way or another, even if we do not want to admit it or pretend not to...
I don't see such a thing as ideals as the motivator factor in many of the today's so called 'artists '.....ART I believe is dead indeed, and we can philosophy about it endeless...but in the end the shareholders always win...they always win....
Be it fashion, be it music, be it TV, be it sport, be it art .... no one is safe from the claws of people whose ultimate ' happy' goal is to just make tons and tons of money....even if that means having to sell your own soul and principles ......so to speak...

But we cannot hold KM accountable in that sense because no matter what, her job is about creating an image and the modelling business is all about image, whether one agrees or disagrees !...the ones I really hold accountable for is OURSELVES the public, because in the end WE the consumers can always take it or leave it !...that's freedom of choice ...But do they care ?...I don not really think so as long as they are' happy '...and the 'business culture' knows that very well....clever aren't they ?...:):):)

In reply to Galileo's Universe:

I don't really agree, this society is also full of choices, and too many choices are not always easy, how you want your life to be is entire up to you. Do you really believe majority of the people's goal is to make "tons and tons of money"? I don't think so, go ask around. It would be nice to make tons of money, but I think most people in the world value family and connecting with people, and health, above money. I don't think anybody would be happy just because their house is built by gold and they have a bunch of LV suitcases. If they feel good about themselves the more luxury brands they own, that's just insecurity, not happiness.

In reply to KaWai:

Not their goals because not everyone has the 'opportunity' or the means to make tons and tons of money, but then there is always the lottery
as a chance ( LOL! )... but yes when asking around .... the answer was.... ' having the possibility and the chance ...YES ! ' .... and why not ?... if that makes their lives happier... whatever that may mean...:):)

In reply to Galileo's Universe:

Business art is the step that comes after Art.

- Andy Warhol